The MOST Newsletter Autumn -Winter

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The MOST Newsletter Autumn -Winter
October 2000 - March 2001
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...................... things start to change for the Most- Digest.

Sara Feb.23, 2001:
Subject: Welcome

Badaba indeed!
(I miss woodpeckers with that cry--here in sw colorado
we have wonderful black and
white ones with redded heads but no "badaba")
Great move, Ramon!
Thanks for simplifying the MOST--certainly a break for you as well
Merry month of March to you all. Sara __

Pam (Read) Hanna Feb. 23, 2000:
Subject: [mostposts] This is a test
Hiya MOSTers, Thot I'd just test out the new address. I tried out Sara's website on google & VOILA! There it was with a neat picture yet! Then i tried my name & it was all over the place. Hey! We're all famous!
Had some more thoughts about the Red scare ;~} & after ruminating about it, the funnier it gets. Red Dave said that I'd thanked him for coming and for being so mature & that sounded so patronizing & out of character for me. But after thinking about it, I think I can reconstruct the scenario. Red is an
alumni of both M*'s & I think spent a little more time at the CA M*, which is where we first met. He was always an energetic young man & had the disconcerting habit of talking a little louder than anybody else & more or less taking over whatever group he was in - i.e. he liked to be the center of attention. M* absorbed people like Nevada & Mystery & Crazy Annie & a whole bunch of others that displayed similar characteristics & M* absorbed Red too. (He married Larry's sister, Lorene [Clare now] and they had a child, Elias, who spent a summer with us in Taos, so there's even a family connection).
One-on-one, Red was entertaining & easier to take. He stayed with Larry & me & our two kids at the time (Siddhartha & Psyche) at Servietta Plaza for at two or three weeks & as I remember, we got along fine. But put him in a group & he's a take-over kinda guy if you get my drift.
Anyway, I can easily imagine that if Red had wanted to come to Sage's birthday meeting, I would have been strongly opposed. Just the thot of Red getting up & telling all those implacable old Indians how to run their lives or expounding his opinions about the meaning of life or somesuch would have made me shudder to the very core. I'll bet I told him something like - OK, you can come if you PROMISE to keep your mouth shut! NOW, i can imagine telling him after morning water that i hadn't thought he'd keep it together, but i was glad he came & thanking him. Memory is such a weird thing. In my experience, you remember what other people say but you seldom remember what you yourself say to people.
So i guess i owe Red an apology. He probably was there. He just doesn't remember that it was in a tipi, not in a kiva, etc. etc. etc. So it's actually pretty funny & no harm done, but PLEASE don't publish those particular ruminations in any permanent MOST on the web site, ok? Thanks.
Love, & Badaba to all, Pam

Gary Glauberman 24 Feb 2001
There is a way to have a "club" where you go to the posts instead of all the posts coming to you. That way you can view the posts, view pictures, chat, etc... but not get every posting that goes to the club sent to your e-mail. It may be that this is set up that way, but I don't think so. I have been too busy to look.
By the way, does anybody know what ever happened to Tony Hanzamoulos? I left Morningstar with him in July of 1967 to hitchhike back to NYC. We split up in Akron, Ohio, where he hopped a freight. I'd heard he lived in Richmond, VA, but never made any attempt to contact him.

----------- JODI MITCHELL 24 Feb 2001:
Subject: Did you leave some bread crumbs? Help! I'm lost on the Zen Trail, did I find my way back Home?
Love and kisses, Jodi
PS. now, now kids, kiss and make up.
__ David Feb. 24, 2001:
Subject: don't worry
Dear most posties, I just talked to Bill and he said closing the gate is just a precaution. So maybe I'll get that stove soon - Garbage Mike offered to help me get it.
Love, David ----------- Most Postie Feb.24, 2001
Subject: Will this work?
Hello, I am capable of moving (sending) the most emails similar to the old format we had before. But you will have to send your email to Most Posties email address to: name@..........
Place "most input" on subject line and it will go into the MOST Input folder. Three or four pages per copy on average will go out into each Most Postie. I will edit out your email address. See example above or below. I was not aware of who was doing the editing before this moment, I thought that we were doing it or our fairy godmother was twinkling over our heads. I am capable of doing it if you all wish it to be so. *** Or we can do both, Which sounds neat. You will all have to use an alien alias, whatsoeverest you choosects? __ Tomas 24 Feb.24, 2001
Subject: A Valentine
Valentines Day came and went. I did the normal stuff and sent a lovely card to Laurel. But I seem to have forgotten the love that I have for the women that I have known. I forgot to reaffirm my love for the women of this world. I forgot to place them on the yearly pedestal of gold, silk attire and red roses. I forgot to say that my world would not be the same as for the love that was given to me in my travels on this planet.
May your day be pleasant knowing that I care about you and your family. May the thought fill your day with wonderful surprises. A belated Valentine for Laurel and my friends.
Tomas __ Shoshanna Schwimmer Feb.24, 2001:
Subject: help
Hi, I too am having a problem with a zillion posts to mostposts in my inbox.
Help! Shoshanna __ John Brig Feb.25, 2001:
Subject:
David, Was that at Ocen Son or *Mt.?
Jack __ Ramon Sender Feb.25, 2001
Subject: Offer
Anyway who prefers to receive MOST e-mail as _individual_ e-mails instead of a daily digest, let me know and I'll change their subscription.
Thanks, R __

embersglo Feb.26, 2001

Being able to go to the MostPosts and read the posts,
reminds me of sitting in the grass and dirt at Wheeler's,
and interacting with whoever happens to be out and about at the time.
Sharing and Being with the tribe.
How very, very "Open Land".
Yeah ..... Char ~*
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Cat Feb.27, 2001:
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4
Digest, please.

Subject: joining a tribe
Blood transfusion time? What happened to the Good Old Days when an occasional white guy was adopted into a tribe? Doesn't that create a precendent?
Ramon
"Perspiring minds need to gnaw"

----------- Ramon Sender Feb.28, 2001
Subject: re digest for Cathleen
You've been switched over for a few days. Hopefully the digest is working via your AOL account?
Badab-i-kins R __ Ramon Sender Mar. 01, 2001
Subject: Re: Digest Number 6
I had the new MOST list set to 'public' as an experiment, but have changed it to 'restricted.' This means that anyone wanting to join has to e-mail me first. Funny, this is one situation I didn't anticipate.
R ----------- Most Postie Mar.01, 2001
Subject: photos online
Something new. Morningstar Photo Scrapbook, a part of the Morningstar Most Newsletter Photos and text from the Morningstar Scrapbook plus new photos and thoughts are online. At the present time the online photo scrapbook is in the stages of being put online. You can send any photos that you want online to "photos online" tomas@apex.net or snail mail them to me at my home address. All photos will be sent back to you after being scanned, if you want them back. Just supply a home address to send them back too. Photos may be of you, any family member or any friend of Morningstar. Include names of whos who? on back of photos, year taken and caption if you like, photo credits.
About the photos: They will be scanned at 150 dots per inch on most photos. Some photos will be quite large. The reason to have such big pictures is so that they will be available history of the Morningstar Family for the future. Some of the text from the scrapbook is getting hard to read. I have scanned in what I could. If any of you can read or know anything about what is missing please send the missing part and I will put it on the bottom of the page of text. Here is a link to the photo scrapbook:
http://www.laurelrose.com/
***
Some of you will have a problem seeing or downloading the photos. Just send me a note and I will either buy you a new computer or send you a smaller photo jpg file.
***
I am going to place a page of thumbnail photos that I have online in the next few weeks. I do not have the larger version of these photos. So if you could, please send me those larger (jpg files) photos so as I can put them back online.
***
Time is what I need. Tomas ----------- Joanie Mar.03,2001:
Subject: Re: Digest Number 7
Tomas - Thanks the wonderful job putting together the picture files! It is great to see so many of us. I had never seen that picture of Pam with Lou and Don before - magnificent!
thanks for the great and devoted work you do.
Love, Joanie __ embersglo Mar.03, 2001
Subject: M* Scrapbook
Tomas, the Morning Star Scrapbook is a joy. It's really neat to see the old pictures of M* 'n stuff.(I can almost taste apples) I'm looking forward to watching the site grow. Now I know where your "musin's been" .(another great site. Your stick to it ness is wonderful!!!!!! : ) ( you make neat stuff) It would be great to see a site for Wheeler's, too.... huh. I've always thought that, since that first awesome feeling of
finding "Open Land" online. I would be more than happy to make one , or to help make one ......
any suggestions anyone?........ Char ~* ----------- Ramon Sender Mar.03 2001
Subject: Red Dave heads North
Message from Dave "Red" Hill for posting on M.O.S.T. Ramon, Hermano, gracias for being there for me. Everyone on and off the "Farm" love and good wishes "Badaba". More later. How we cleaned out Selso's. __ David Mar.06, 2001
Subject: mostposts web interface
Dear mosties, First of all thanks to Tomas for the M* Scrapbook online! There are photos there I never saw before. While some of us were too un-photogenic to ever get the camerman's interest, I can point to some indistinct, grainy shots of people standing around a campfire and say "I think the third from the left is me!" I am typing this not using my regular e-mail place at home but rather using the mostpost web interface at Groups. To use it you will have to set up an ID and password (free) which will also be used for any other groups you may be interested in. The advantages are it has chat capabilities for people in the group (I just checked it out- no one else was using it from this group), a calendar we might use, a list of member's e-mail addresses (shortened to prevent spammers) and other features.
Badaba, David
David Mar.06, 2001
Subject: accessibility
Dear mosties, I forgot to mention the best advantage of the mostposts web interface in my last e-mail: you can access or send mostposts from anywhere! Also read new e-mails that haven't been sent out to the members yet. Badaba, David ----------- Ramon Sender Mar. 07 2001
Subject: Re: Digest Number 8
Great job on the Scrapbook photos, Tomas!!! And as for the Wheeler's one, there are lots of photos just a-waiting. And I've scanned most of them already. Char, can you deal with a one-gigabyte Jaz cartridge? __ JODI MITCHELL9 Mar.09, 2001
Subject: Sangha, tribal family!
In response to Phil Morningstar from awhile back. Thanks for your poesy on suppression/oppression/depression. There has not been a day in the last 3 years that I have lived in NC that I haven't gotten "yer not from around here are ya'?!" Oh, vomit! The only time I ever felt truly free to be me, to look like me, think like me, act like me, talk like me, smell like me, was my time at Wheelers. I
never felt so happy, relieved, free, accepted, respected and loved BW(before Wheelers) or AW(after
Wheelers)! So, you are not alone, Phil, we all have each other again.Welcome, home. ----------- embersglo Mar.11 2001
Subject: picture i.d.?
Hello tribes folk..... I'm trying to identify a picture on a thumbnail on the Morningstar Scrapbook...... I think the person with the blond hair and her hand and arm over the side is me.... does anyone else recognize the pic? The truck IS the one we had at Wheeler's, isn't it? Any i.d. on the rest of the people in it? Here it is..... http://www.imaginationwebsites.com/folkstruck.html
hmmm.... did that come out as a link?
Well, happy sunny spring and new Awakenings all! : )
(badabas)..... Char ~*
__ Tomas Mar.11, 2001:
Subject: Projections
We sit in the darkness, the moonlight reflects off of the golden wild wheat. I remember as a child sliding down a similar hill of tall wild wheat on a cardboard box. Who needs snow? Some one has set up a projector on this hill. We are going to see slides in the sky, projections in the darkness. We will see a view of the world on film. Our photos will be on display in the night sky. Where will these projections take us? Is our mind going forward or back in time? There is a pain in my neck, a reminder of my age and this time
frame. I'll lay back and watch on my back. Some of these places are new to me. I did try to record the peace and the turbulence, these projections tell our story. They miss the inner turmoil, writing sometimes conveys that emotion. I wish others would color my days with ribbons of golden poppies. Light blue wild flowers highlight the golden hills. Sometimes you look into the eyes of the world and see where you are standing. This is one of those moments.
Badaba, Tomas ----------- Ramon Sender Mar.12, 2001
Subject: Re: Digest Number 12
Char, that is the Wheeler truck leaving Wheeler's on a town run. There are a few more from that sequence.... When I have a mo', I'll check them out. And also try to fire up the CD burner!
R __ Phil Morningstar Mar.12, 2001
Subject: My Fellow Morningstarians
Dear People of Morningstar; I'd like to thank Ramon, Laurel, Tom and everybody else :~) for all the work they've put in to making the newsletter and M*/Wheelers sites work. Its great to have way to stay in touch with each other. The number of people I was able to stay in touch with has seemed to dwindle over the years. Its good to see that there are so many of us still have the same spirit, even though some of us might be a little greyer.
Again my name is Phil, and I first came to M* in 1967. I was 16 then, from So. Ca., I'm 6' 2 and had
light brown hair down to my shoulders. We did used to run around a lot, dividing our time between the
Wheelers , M*, and the City. I wanted to explore the spiritual aspects of the movement and did I ever pick the right place for that! I still remember how welcome I was made to feel welcome even on the first day I was there. How can you resist a bunch of naked strangers, hugging you and telling you "welcome home". Well it became home for me, and spiritualy, still is. It was that fall when they really started to raid the place, good ol'" Rocky and Bullwinkle ", and some of us started migrating up to Wheelers. I wound up building a place on the knoll with a black guy named Cat. Then later I had a little place near the school house. Bird used to stay with me , and a dark haired lady named Anne, who had a son named Mike. I know she went up to Rainbow in Oregon and got together with Bear. There was a lady on the knoll who had a little garden right next to Kelly's fence, she had 2 kids, one named Gregy. I used to help her some and for the life of me I can't remember her name. There was a family who lived in a big teepee I think the mans name was John, but I can't remeber his wifes name, they had about 5 kids though. Now I don't think I can blame all these memory lapses on the acid, though I'd like to try. I've had a head injury but...maybe it was all the acid.
Spiritualy I still live at Morningstar. That idea of oneness of the spirit and with the spirit of the earth
is a feeling thats never left me. I remember our talking about how M* was more than a place, it was
also a living ideal we took with us wherever we went. We carried M* with us.
I've been living in Berkeley for the last 6 years, and there's still people here when I talk about M* that say things like, "Weren't you guys some kind of cult." seesh. I try to explain, but it just goes over their heads. A spiritualy oriented, anarchist, back to the earth movement with no dogma. What?????
I'm about to go back to college as part of Voc. Rehab. This time I'm going to do what I've always
wanted and become a History major. I made the mistake of actualy taking peoples advice, instead of following my heart, and wound up taking a lot of science and computer tech. courses. But I just wound up selling them, and scrambling to keep my points up. I've had mixed feelings about using the technology
involved with the net. But finding these sites kind of shows that, it can be beneficial in being able to bind
diverse groups together, over the whole of Mother Earth.
I was living by Palm Springs for a number of years, and would run into Ray M* once in a while, and he'd
keep my up to date on the latest news. He used to like Taquitz Canyon, thats been yuppified into a riding
trail now. And I'm still in touch with Bird, but I was really elated when I found the M*/Wheelers site. Who'd I'd really like to find is Carol. Carol and Santiago( I have known about Santiago's passing ) . Carol was always like a big sister to me, she really had a loving heart.
Well I'll wind up this rambleing little missive and thank you all for your patience. I love you all.
And a special thanks to Jodi, hang in there and thanks for the love.
Peace and Love, Hugs and Kisses, Phil ----------- David Hatch Mar.13,2001
Subject: the truck
Dear mosties, Its funny, but just a few months ago I asked Quiet Steve (who I cook for 3 days a week) if that was him on the left of that truck photo, but he didn't think so.
Loved your piece in the last mostpost, Phil. Maybe it was Nancy who had the garden. She had two kids whose names I think were Greg and Michelle. She had lived over at M* alot.
Love you all,
David
http://home.inreach.com/whranch/David/david.html __ embersglo Mar.13, 2001:
Subject: Re: Digest Number 12
Thanks Ramon....... Can't wait to get the c.d. and all, and start weaving. : ). I thought I'd let you know I have a scanner hook up, too, should there be some pics that are crying to be online. It's so great to see Tomas' Scrapbook.... clicking on the picture links is like unwraping gifts from favorite relatives. ........ much badabas..... Char ~* ----------- embersglo Mar.13, 2001:
Subject: Re: the truck
Hiya David........ That's silly that you would have thought that that was Quiet Steve - and, I can see the resemblence. I remember him as "Silent Steve".... and I also remember how he would meet the truck or bus up on the access road.... and how he could jump straight up like a deer, and go up and over the fence
there in a "flash". The last time I saw him, he came to visit us in a small commune we lived at in Lake County.....Lower Lake. Some of us women there had infant babies (my daughter was born then... Wind
Song), and Steve would entertain the older rug rats with his comic books and chocolate bars. What a little charactor ........ I have always had a warm place in my heart for him......
Happy Springtime to the Ridge...... : )
...... JOY...... Char ~* __ Joanie Mar.14,2001:
Subject: Re: Digest Number 14
Dear mostposters,
Could you please add the following address to your list? Bill Amatneek
Bill is a storyteller who met Lou years ago and has been telling a wonderful story of Lou's analysis of the song "Danny Boy." I took Bill up to Morningstar last week and told him more about Lou since he was only vaguely aware of the whole Morningstar story and Lou's incredible generosity.
Morningstar looked beautiful and the redwood trees are even taller than before. Lou's house is in good shape because of Paul's care of both the house and land.
Later we met Bill Wheeler in Occidental and we talked more about Lou and Morninstar in general.
Tomas, could you send me and Bill Amatneek the website for your pictures one more time? I've forgotten how to get to it. Happy springtime to everyone!
Love, Joanie ----------- Tomas Mar.14, 2001:
Subject: Coo Coo
Cut and paste, While watching the history of Morningstar unfold in this scrapbook that I am putting online. I place my self in the proper place and time. In September during the Big Bust I was picking apples and soon to meet Ramon. I was completely unaware of what was to happen to me. As I see these news clippings that I am pasting I realize that this young joyful boy is about to meet the law. I am happy and in love with Sylvia Williams. I am not aware of the Big Bust and the departure of many souls from the Morningstar Ranch. So at my arrival I am completely unaware. I soon learn that the law steps on the boundaries of Morningstar. I move about unseen, not that I want do not want to be seen. It is just that
because of my shinning silver tooth that I maintain an appearance of stealth. I did have my picture taken by the sheriff in one of those group photos, but I am not to be seen in them. How can one see and not
be seen at the same time. Why did it take so long for this simple mind to evolve? I saw the movie, "One Flew over the Coo Coo's Nest", and I now realize how close I came to being sent out to pasture for not complying with the law. I stood my ground, but the law had an answer. How many other people have been put out to pasture because they do not respond to numbers and tags. I respond to numbers and tags now, but I only play to keep my body and mind out of empty pastures.
Laurel is still trying to get an equal wage for what she does. She works harder than I do, so I think she should earn more that I do, but still she does not. These times we live in are slow to change.
badaba, Tomas __

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